For those of you who like actual good tv, good writing, and a good story, YOU JUST MISSED IT! All this weekend, the ScyFy channel ran the whole NBC ORIGINAL V Series episodes from 1984. With this running, it under cuts anything this new ABC series can come up with. If you watched any of that marathon, you know everything that is about to come. But knowing these pathetic writers of today, they are going to try and show us vets of the show, SOMIN DIFFERENT! You know like how they showed us SOMIN DIFFERENT with the Bionic Woman, Knight Rider, the first years of the new Battlestar Glactica, and new Stargate. BRUTAL, except those shows were probably written over lunch at McDonalds, on some college campus, while this new V, is done at Starbucks!

I'm sorry, I have no faith in this generation for taking shows or movies I thought great, okay, or mediocre from my youth, and making them greater for this time. Yeah, the only one that has me waiting for the DVD is Star Trek, even though I found gapping holes in that plot and story.

But if this new V, goes like the first years of BG, we'll see more sex, more explosions and special effects, poor character development, and the Black guy will get killed off in the 1st or second show, instead of the next season! It will probably be more like Lost! The beauty of V was that it was a very lucky attempt at a made for tv mini series, that was at best, mediocre in it's day. Except it just came along at the right time, and people were hooked from day one, not the third season. They hyped that show for months on football games, news casts, subway stations, with a simple red spray painted V! In fact, NBC showed NO PROMOS but the V, and you didn't know what the Visitors looked like until you got 15 minutes into the plot. And over time, minus the cheasy special effects, it has become a SCI FI classic, that has finely aged like wine. I hope the new show has HALF the good writing and cleverness that the old one does. I want to be hooked after the first show, and I want it to be good like I think it can be.

P.S. Independence Day, STOLE THEIR SHIPS FROM V THE SERIES! Except in V, the didn't blowup cities, they only threatened to blow up the planet. And they have their work cut out in finding a new DIANA!

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I saw that V was on scyfy over the weekend. That was classic when it came out. Whether or not the new V can compare in terms of writing, there's no question the special effects will be much, much better. That alone should spark "some" interest of those curious to see how the reptilians look like with modern fx.

I know exactly what you're saying, they were a little cheesy! But I did like the fact that the lizzard cutting bullets seemed to be more accurate than the laser guns! But Joe, they say the Visitors will not be wearing the KOOL SHADES, or the Orange Jumpsuits. Now that was their trademark, and I bet these new guys run COMPLETELY AWAY FROM THAT! It's not like we the dumb viewer can tell them apart from any old actor playing the part.

lol their lizards? That's crazy. I'm pretty stoked for this tv show, hopefully it takes over my LOST void after this season.

It does look good and I will be watching. I too watched the replay of the series on ScyFy yesterday. I will be happy to see those cheesy 80's jumpsuites go for something a little more modern. I think the series has a chance being on ABC. The writers for that company seem to be far and away better than what you see on others. The special effects will help a ton considering how funny they were in the original. But, that was the early 80's for you and the original was entertaining to watch.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20315683,00.html


A shrewd take on both sci-fi and the media, V is an excellently acted what-if-aliens- landed show, a savvy updating of the 1983 cult miniseries. The premise is irresistible: What if the aliens looked hot and promised friendship and advanced technology, but were secretly planning to exterminate everyone on Earth? That would put the planet in a bit of a pickle, wouldn't it? I mean, yes, extermination = bad, but hot, disease-curing aliens…you might take your chances, right?

Lost's Elizabeth Mitchell — fast becoming TV's go-to gal for strong, brainy women of action — stars as Erica, an FBI agent who's suspicious about the motives of Anna (Morena Baccarin), the leggy leader of the ''V's,'' or ''Visitors.'' She and her fed partner Dale (Joss Whedon repertory player Alan Tudyk) notice that there's a spike in terrorist activity coinciding with the arrival of the aliens, and try to connect the dots.

Meanwhile, TV journalist Chad Decker, played with perfect plasticity by Scott Wolf, does his best to ignore the dots. Granted an exclusive interview with Anna, he caves in to her demand that he not ask questions ''that would paint us in a negative light.'' Ambitious and easily flattered, Chad is willing to bend his ethics. He's a compromised hero, a canny concept from the V producers, who include Scott Peters (creator of The 4400) and Jeffrey Bell (who's written for The X-Files, Angel, and Alias). Chad's character plays into our cynical notions of what TV will do to exploit a good news event, but he also represents our own ambivalence. After all, if a soothing-voiced creature came to us promising universal health care and her last name wasn't Obama, don't you think the majority of Americans would say, ''Hell, yeah!''?

The makers of V combine human drama (Erica's son is recruited by the Visitors even as his mom starts a resistance movement against them) with elements of Invasion of the Body Snatchers (cool-icky visual: Cut a V deep enough and you get reptile skin beneath the flesh coating). Add the timely themes of terrorism and inability to trust your neighbor, and V works as both escapism and a critique of society.

Here's my worry, though: How many viewers will take on another serialized otherworldly drama? If someone is hooked on FlashForward, Lost, and one or two cultier items (Dollhouse or Stargate Universe, say), is he/she going to invest in V as well? Add to that ABC's potentially irritating rollout of this series — on the air for four weeks, then scheduled to be pulled until March 2010 — and I worry a bit for the future of V.

About the show itself, however, I don't worry at all. As an adventure series bristling with ideas, it's V+. Or as we grade 'em on Earth: B+

NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL!
The way they brought the aliens in, was good. Then all of a sudden, they've been there 3 months. Then 45 minutes into the story, THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS, WE KNOW THEIR PLANS. Come on, it took the original series at least an 15 minutes into the plot, before even saw what the Visitors even looked like, and about an hour and 45 minutes before they found out they were lizzards! In one ABC hour, they have gone from point A to point G in the story. The Visitors have been living among us for decades ,and some how they found a way to bring terrorists and the last eight years of our lives into this series, wow what imagination!

GOD DO THESE MODERN WRITERS SUCK! No imagination, no cleverness, nothing creative but to change the ship, the uniforms, and the person that made contact! YOU CAN'T TELL THE ALIENS FROM THE HUMANS! It's freaking Battlestar Galactica and Lost rolled up into one!

Too bad your in the minority with your opinion if you do a search on Twitter, the reaction has been 99 percent positive.

Things change, times change, people of today can keep up with the pace of episode one, maybe for old timers its harder to comprehend.

If it was exactly like the first one what would be the point?

BLIZZADEMIZZASSTER, let's try and have a real talk on this one okay!
First of all, I must be one of the rebels, because I didn't fall for the smiles and gifts from the Visitors. Second of all, I come from a generation of Star Trek, Lost In Space, Space 1999, The first Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, Star Wars, V the original series, the Knight Rider, the Six Million Dollar Man, the Bionic Woman, Wonder Woman, the Hulk, so you have to forgive me if I like an ACTUAL STORY, PLOT, CREATIVITY, A TEASE, NOT GIVING ME THE WHOLE THING INSIDE OF 40 MINUTES. But BLIZZADEMIZZASSTER, I'm pretty sure I heard my parents say what you said about those shows, the music and entertainment of my childhood. Maybe our minds are more finely tuned for actual good Scifi, than yours, I don't know? But I'm telling you, if they had've been given 2 hours to establish the story, like the first series was, you'd be more than hooked, you'd be a V attic!

All today, this past weekend, I watched as much of the old V, as I could because I knew what could possibly happen. And when my buddies from my era, who watched the same stuff as I did, called and pretty much said the same thing I did, and from what you're telling me, I see there is a divide! What matters is BLIZZADEMIZZASSTER, is that you like it!

But it's funny. When they used to redo old movies or series in the 70's and 80's, you'd hear all this negative stuff too. But usually, they did better than the original through better technology or an updated script. One example, KING KONG! Look at what happened when they went to level 3 on that one, NOBODY REMEMBERS IT. Same thing with the American Godzilla, it sucked! But as soon as the Japanese took the series back, IT STILL ROCKS!

The funny thing is, if this was real life you would be leading the welcome wagon because the promised universal healthcare!

Face it GBA, this is 2009 not 1984. The viewing public doesn't want to waste their time for them setting up the story we all know is coming. Get to it and lets have some fun with this. Slow story telling and bad writing killed a good concept like Heros. This however did not let me down. I watched the old series to and I didn't mind not seeing the poor graphics and acting. I didn't miss the laughable knock of costumes and poor writing. I fore sure didn't miss the predictable story telling.

We get it. You are nastalgic about everything in life. You can't excape your childhood memories even when something good slaps you in the face. It's ok.

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The funny thing is, if this was real life you would be leading the welcome wagon because the promised universal healthcare!

Face it GBA, this is 2009 not 1984. The viewing public doesn't want to waste their time for them setting up the story we all know is coming. Get to it and lets have some fun with this. Slow story telling and bad writing killed a good concept like Heros. This however did not let me down. I watched the old series to and I didn't mind not seeing the poor graphics and acting. I didn't miss the laughable knock of costumes and poor writing. I fore sure didn't miss the predictable story telling.

We get it. You are nastalgic about everything in life. You can't excape your childhood memories even when something good slaps you in the face. It's ok.

Actually the writers strike almost killed Heroes. The first season was phenomenal.

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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
The funny thing is, if this was real life you would be leading the welcome wagon because the promised universal healthcare!

Face it GBA, this is 2009 not 1984. The viewing public doesn't want to waste their time for them setting up the story we all know is coming. Get to it and lets have some fun with this. Slow story telling and bad writing killed a good concept like Heros. This however did not let me down. I watched the old series to and I didn't mind not seeing the poor graphics and acting. I didn't miss the laughable knock of costumes and poor writing. I fore sure didn't miss the predictable story telling.

We get it. You are nastalgic about everything in life. You can't excape your childhood memories even when something good slaps you in the face. It's ok.

I didn't see it, is it good? My main reasoning is i already know what is going to happen. Why not name the show something else and through the viewers off?

GBA don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the original V. I've had the pleasure of a sitdown lunch with Robert Englund. You know "Willie".

However if someone does a remake i personally would like to see a different spin on the original, otherwise what is the point of doing an exact clone of something that for me was already a great show?

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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
The funny thing is, if this was real life you would be leading the welcome wagon because the promised universal healthcare!

Face it GBA, this is 2009 not 1984. The viewing public doesn't want to waste their time for them setting up the story we all know is coming. Get to it and lets have some fun with this. Slow story telling and bad writing killed a good concept like Heros. This however did not let me down. I watched the old series to and I didn't mind not seeing the poor graphics and acting. I didn't miss the laughable knock of costumes and poor writing. I fore sure didn't miss the predictable story telling.

We get it. You are nastalgic about everything in life. You can't excape your childhood memories even when something good slaps you in the face. It's ok.

I didn't see it, is it good? My main reasoning is i already know what is going to happen. Why not name the show something else and through the viewers off?

I thought it was good so far. Nothing super special yet but it has potential.

I agree with BLLISSADEMIZZASSTER. A new story line is the way to go. Rather cool that you sat down with Robert Englund too. I loved his charecter.

Ya it was really cool, I got to meet him at a sci-fi/horror show in Orlando when I was there with David Carradine.

I was in the green room in line for lunch, he was right in front of me and I non chalantly sat down at the same table as him across from him and we talked a bit about V I didn't really want to talk about Freddie because I'm sure he gets so many people talking to him about that character. He seemed to appreciate that I knew him as Willie.

The Pilot was a sub-par episode.

The acting and dialogue was atrocious, but it had great VFX for TV standars, and the last half hour had nice pacing. However, ulimately, in the end the pilot gave away too much.

I'll tune in next week, but in no way does this episode deserve any of the praise it's getting in here or on useless Twitter (c'mon, get real guys).

Dr. EVIL wrote "The viewing public doesn't want to waste their time for them setting up the story we all know is coming." Sorry Doc, THAT'S PRETTY LAME AND STUPID. So you're tell us all, that the people of today, DON'T WANT A STORY. They don't want a plot or character development. And all they want is special effects, sex, and snappy one liners. Come on, the people of today aren't as dumb as you're trying to paint with your broad brush. Dr. Evil, if we use you're type of thinking, Hollywood should quickly be able to find out why their movies only last two weeks in the theaters. And in that frame of mine, movies with plots, a good story, characters, that people remember for 20 plus years and beyond, NOW SUCK, under your logic. PEOPLE ARE NOT AS DUMB AS YOU SAY DR.EVIL!

Folks, this can't be the Dr. Evil I knew. This current one is small & petty, and only reacts and lives to knock down everything I say. We have been having conversations for years, and talks all summer on the off topic board with facts, logic, some B.S., and shot the breeze on a variety of subjects. But he can't separate one issue from another as of late, because he's flipped out or something, and thinks I am the enemy. Go back Piston Message Board fans, and look wherever I have posted, Dr. Evil is there to counter whatever I say and bring up something that has NOTHING to do with the topic.
I do believe I have a STALKER on my hands!

Hey Dock, we're stressed out enough with our lives and it's problems, and that's why we come here to these boards let it hang out, and get some stress off. But if I have to be your crutch to get you through, so be it! You're not the first, and you won't be the last. I've told him many times that I respect his opinions. But all of sudden he's gone off the deep end, and have chosen to shadow in a dark light, everything I say. Tell me message board people, do want somebody ragging on every little or major comment you make?

But if you're not a stalker, you won't take the bait and answer this post of mine! And for the 100th time, if I have offended you in any kind of way, I'M SORRY! DR. EVIL, you got some splaning to do?

Now back to the V TALK!

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Don't flatter yourself. LOL!!!

GBA, The more I read your posts, the more I think you're in your own little world.

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Dr. EVIL wrote "The viewing public doesn't want to waste their time for them setting up the story we all know is coming." Sorry Doc, THAT'S PRETTY LAME AND STUPID. So you're tell us all, that the people of today, DON'T WANT A STORY.

It's funny how you burn republican tv/radio hosts on here, because they distort the facts - then you do the same thing by ignoring his real point. He actually said, "A new story line is the way to go." Which is what most of us who've seen the original or knows what happens in the original want. Why would we want to watch the same show twice, just with better effects. But of course, you overreact like usual and have made up your mind about the show after just one episode. Evil isn't out to get you, you just feel that way because he doesn't agree with your over emotional impulse responses. Stop whining and making this personal.

TheHansBecker, you have never liked anything I've ever said, so why should I listen to you? And that line you got from Dock, is pretty obvious. Tell me, in your private world, what idiot expected them to do this new show exactly like the old one? I've been reading internet reviews, talking to scifi lovers that I know all day, and NOBODY has even passed a brain cell with that thought. No redo is exactly like the original in Hollywood. What seems to be missing in this conversation about this show is CRITICAL THINKING! Like I said, you guys are a lot like the people greeting the visitors, you just except, and don't question. You don't go from just meeting the aliens, to them being there 3 months, to figuring out their plans are gathering a rebel force to stop them, with in 40 minutes of the opening of the story. POOR STORY TELLING! And from what I'm hearing around the country, many people from my time, do find this new version questionable. And people without a true scifi childhood, find it great, and they are willing to follow! Now where in any of my statements until now, have I said you should hate the show. I said, if you like this show, that's all that is important to me.

I have higher standards, I want more than I am getting from tv and movies, that I saw in it's original form. Tonight, I heard Bill Cosby say "when you saw me perform or heard my albums, or even stepped on a stage, you got the best from me every time". Tell me TheHansBecker, my critics, did you really get the best out of that tv show, for that one hour?

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