http://basketball.realgm.com/s..._on_6_year_contract/

Good god...

I would have trouble paying him anything over 4 million a season. An energy player who has no key talent. Lebron'll be leaving soon.

ahhhh hahahaha there go the cavs makin yet another dumb move

While I'd love to have a guy like that as a piece off the bench of my championship team, you still have GOT to be kidding me with that contract...

Not sure what flops more. Him or his hair. 50 mill!!?? LOL

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Originally posted by JROLLA:
While I'd love to have a guy like that as a piece off the bench of my championship team, you still have GOT to be kidding me with that contract...

my thoughts exactly.

You guys have to be kidding me how can signing a young big who has improved each year be a bad signing. Only Detroit would think so...

And again no matter how many times LBJ has said that he has no plans on leaving Cleveland your hate comes out.

LBJ will be a Cav for pretty much all of his carrer and that scares you guys being that means 2nd place is the best that you can hope for.

Reminds me of us with you about 3 years ago.

If Lebron signs the extenstion the Cav fans can breathe a little bit fresher air, but if he doesn't you'll be sweating.

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Originally posted by Jodie "Freek" Meeks:
If Lebron signs the extenstion the Cav fans can breathe a little bit fresher air, but if he doesn't you'll be sweating.

He had done a interview just before the PO and was asked if Cleveland was a big enough market to hold him. His words(it has for 24yrs and could for another 5yrs) and the media still tries to break that down as a way to say he is leaving. Good news does not sell and then they are still going to be talking like this a year after he signs, so we are going to be hearing about 2015.

this is great.



Had to come off vacation for this
Posted on: July 9, 2009 1:33 pmScore: 139Rate This Post:Rate This Post: Rate This Post: Fair Good Cool Awesome I Love It! Anderson Varejao, the new $50 million man? Anderson Varejao?

Seriously?

Anderson Varejao is bad. As in, not good. He's a triple threat -- he can't pass, handle or shoot.

He's not worth $50 million over six years. He's not worth $50 million over 60 years.

Here's where you tell me to shut up, that Cleveland GM Danny Ferry knows more basketball than I do. And maybe you're right. Then again, Ferry's the one who thought the corpse known as Zydrunas Ilgauskas could compete in the NBA playoffs. And Ferry's the one who just gave Anderson Varejao $50 million.

Thanks for ruining my vacation, Ferry. I was relaxing. By the pool. Sipping Shirley Temple. Even having a drink, too. (Rim shot.) But I had to come off vacation to write about this. About the end of the world as we know it. About Anderson Varejao getting $50 million to average six points and six rebounds per game.

Imagine if he averaged nine and nine. They'd rename the team after him.

I read somewhere that the deal is really $42 million over 6 years with some incentives that could push it close to $50 million. Over 5 years, $50 million for Varejao would be pretty bad. Over 6 years, $42 million still not a very friendly contract, but it's more reasonable. If he doesn't reach the incentive money, that's about $7 million a year, which is basically the MLE. Even if you think that's overpaying Varejao, the MLE for him is not unreasonable at all. Quality bigs in the NBA get paid big. And, decent bigs in the NBA still get paid rather well. In today's NBA, it's hard to find a big man that will bang in the paint, get his nose dirty, and won't shy from contact.

All that said, it's still probably overpaying him. And, it's not just Detroit fans who think it's a bad contract. I've read fans of most teams think it's a pretty bad contract, but probably regarding it as the $50 million deal, not the $42 million + incentives. And even though it's a back-loaded contract, with the state of the economy and how it has affected the salary cap this year and possible next year, there's a great likelihood that Varejao's contract specifically results in the Cavs being unable to add another max contract next summer. The payroll won't allow it as it stands right now, with the contracts committed to Cleveland's payroll for 2010-11 without the NBA increasing the salary cap substantially next summer or Cleveland dumping a couple of their younger players and their contracts.

I think that's what makes the deal bad to those who are criticizing it. It has a very good chance at hurting Cleveland's chances to attract an additional max player next summer. If that's the case, it doesn't matter that Varejao is a young big who has improved every year. He's still not worth risking not being able to add a Chris Bosh or an Amare Stoudemire.

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Originally posted by cawahoo:
You guys have to be kidding me how can signing a young big who has improved each year be a bad signing. Only Detroit would think so...

And again no matter how many times LBJ has said that he has no plans on leaving Cleveland your hate comes out.

LBJ will be a Cav for pretty much all of his carrer and that scares you guys being that means 2nd place is the best that you can hope for.

Reminds me of us with you about 3 years ago.

good it'll be my pleasure to watch the mighty stones resurrect an smack lebron an his bum bandit up. whether its this year or the next believe me its coming. you never been on top though so bad comparison how it reminds u of u

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Originally posted by cawahoo:

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Originally posted by Jodie "Freek" Meeks:
If Lebron signs the extenstion the Cav fans can breathe a little bit fresher air, but if he doesn't you'll be sweating.

He had done a interview just before the PO and was asked if Cleveland was a big enough market to hold him. His words(it has for 24yrs and could for another 5yrs) and the media still tries to break that down as a way to say he is leaving. Good news does not sell and then they are still going to be talking like this a year after he signs, so we are going to be hearing about 2015.

no one cares, i was like the only one who did, getting lebron is highly improbable now so no fraternizing with the enemy anymore aka gloves are off

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Originally posted by cawahoo:
You guys have to be kidding me how can signing a young big who has improved each year be a bad signing. Only Detroit would think so...

Eh? The guy has reached his full potential, if you don't think that then you're in denial. He will be a mediocre rotation player at best for the entire span of his contract. Your GM is throwing money around to players who lack talent (Ben Wallace, AV, etc...).

He's a young big who isn't that great of a rebounder, or interior defender. Those are important qualities for a big man to have. One thing he is good at, is flopping. As soon as the NBA starts to call it on him, he loses about 50% of his appeal.

But I'm not saying you shouldn't have signed him. I'm saying you should be paying him 5 mill at the very most. Even that seems like to much.



And again no matter how many times LBJ has said that he has no plans on leaving Cleveland your hate comes out.

You're the only one hating here player. I love Lebron, I don't really want him to bolt from CLE. The only thing we're talking about here is AV, and his new ridiculous contract.

LBJ will be a Cav for pretty much all of his carrer and that scares you guys being that means 2nd place is the best that you can hope for.

You continue to spend money like a ******* on payday, then he won't be here. You weren't good enough last year, adding Shaq could make or break this team. Prepare to see Lebron playing in another jersey if this season doesn't go as planned.

Again, I don't want Lebron to leave. I am a fan of Cleveland. But I think it's extremely possible.

Reminds me of us with you about 3 years ago.

Allow me to remind you that with in these last couple of years that your team has performed well, you still haven't won ish. I don't know where you get off talking down to us. We had a better run then you have, and won a championship. In 5 years from now, when Lebron is leading another team to a championship, and AV is putting up 3 and 6 in 35 minutes a game, I'll remember that comment.

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The Cavs did not overpay. Varejao is an elite man to man defender. He's one of the best positional rebounders in the biz. He led the league in charges drawn. I'd have given him more money than CV too.

The only thing wrong with that contract is the length. Six years is to much.

*ignore*

Incidentally, the Nuggets just signed the Birdman to a 5 year, $26 million contract. 1 year and $16 million less than what Sideshow Bob is making. And their stats are mirror images of each other. The only difference is that Birdman is among the league leaders in blocks and does all of this in about 20 minutes per game, to Varejao's 28...

And even THAT contract has got some fans in Denver a little upset. I don't think it's too bad, personally. Especially when looking across the way at Varejao's contract...

1 year and $24 million less, if those incentives kick in. Ouch...

Well...the Birdman is 31 yrs old. Varejao is 26.

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Originally posted by tetris:
The Cavs did not overpay. Varejao is an elite man to man defender. He's one of the best positional rebounders in the biz. He led the league in charges drawn. I'd have given him more money than CV too.

The only thing wrong with that contract is the length. Six years is to much.

Yes, they did overpay, and yes the length is ridiculous.
The funny thing mentioned in the article is how his contract is likely back-loaded. So, Varejao could potentially be making this kind of money each year..

Yr. 1 5 mil Age 27
Yr. 2 6 mil
Yr. 3 6 mil
Yr. 4 7.5 mil
Yr. 5 8 mil
Yr. 6 8 mil Age 32

What are the incentives that could push this contract up another $7.5 Mil??? That is what I would like to know!
The Cavs better be banking on the prospect of Varejao reaching greater potential by the end of that 4th year, because at that point, they WILL be over-paying.
True, Varejao is a good hustle player, a good rebounder, and one hell of a flopper.
True, his contract is a potential expiring, thus, trade bait by year 6.
But to me personally, it looks like just another bloated, typical Danny Ferry contract to a guy who just isn't worth it.

Well...the Birdman has talent, Varejao doesn't. Seriously the fact that you call him an elite man to man defender after seeing him get worked by Rashard Lewis is absolutely hillarious.

The only team Varejao has effectively 'shut down' is ours, and we were well over the hill.


It's like playing a pick up game against people in their 50's.


One of the best positional rebounders my azz. Where do you come up with this stuff? He's a career 6rpg.

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quote:

Originally posted by cawahoo:
You guys have to be kidding me how can signing a young big who has improved each year be a bad signing. Only Detroit would think so...

And again no matter how many times LBJ has said that he has no plans on leaving Cleveland your hate comes out.

LBJ will be a Cav for pretty much all of his carrer and that scares you guys being that means 2nd place is the best that you can hope for.

Reminds me of us with you about 3 years ago.

This has zero to do with being a fan of any team. A lot of people here scorched Joe D. for the Gordon signing. A bad contract is a bad contract bud, take off your homer glasses.