Curry, I don't know what the hell that guy was doing on the bench last year. It looks like he didn't learn anything about the team, or the players! He doesn't know how to coach. I can't believe that he still thinks we can win with his "small line-up". Please Curry learn for once!

A.I., I don't know what to say about him .. but am gonna say this: He SUCKS! Look at him out there, embarrasing! He looks lost, and commets some really stupid TO's. The guy doesn't know what to do!

It looks like he's not part of Curry's offense! Maybe thats because no one trusts him. Not the coach nor the players! We're not using him, or benefiting from him. The way I see it, when he's out there on the court he just makes us worse, weaker, and even softer! Did u see him today against the Magic? He was shut down by Nelson. No one wants to give him the ball, it looks like he's just out there because it has to be 5 players lol! Really, the only time I saw him do something was maybe in the beginning of the 4TH Q and then Curry took him out in the last minutes of the game because he doesn't trust him. So tell me why should we keep this guys? We're not using him, and we don't trust him!

And I can't believe there are some people over here want to trade Rip and keep A.I.! THAT'S CRAZY!! A.I. can't play with this team, and can't make us win with this system. Time will prove it! TRADE HIM JOE, SAVE THE PISTONS!

And this should be our line-up from now on: (A.I. should NOT start!)

G- R. Stuckey / W. Bynum
G- R. Hamilton / A. Iverson / A. Afflalo
C- A. Johnson / K. Brown
F- R. Wallace / A. McDyess / J. Maxiell
F- T. Prince / W. Herrmann

I always believe in my Pistons no matter what and love them, but with Curry and A.I. I don't know! I hope am wrong though!

Go Pistons!

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You don't like AI. We get it.

I would rather have A.I. come off the bench as well. This way he can have the bulk of the shots with the 2nd unit. Stuckey and Hamilton play well together since Stuckey is so similar to Billups, so I think it would be a mistake to split them up. The only thing I don't agree with is Amir starting. I would rather have Brown starting, and have Amir come off the bench with Dyess.

king of dark you should change your name to Rod Marinelli you guys both have the same stupidness when it comes to sports. We win 2 games in a row against 1 average team and 1 very good team without Rip but Ai still is the problem.

I think A.I. should stay benched.

Man, I believe in MC. He'll get better even one month from now, and 2 months from now and on and on. He isn't on that big of a contract for a coach either. Sorry to bring it back to Al-Trada, but the right trade could excuse MC from having to deal with the rotation issue this year and help him deal with all the other issues.

If MC is hyping small ball in March, then yea, I guess that I will have to join the critics.

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Originally posted by KING of DARK:
He SUCKS! Look at him out there, embarrasing! He looks lost, and commets some really stupid TO's. The guy doesn't know what to do!

PREPARE TO BE FLAMED AND SKEWERED FOR THAT STATEMENT, BELIEVE ME I KNOW. ANYTHING BAD IS SAID ABOUT THE "ANSWER" AND YOUR DEAD MEAT ON THIS BOARD.

See, I think AI is a better fit with Dice off of the bench. AI needs someone who can draw the big defenders out from the paint and then knock down the open jumpers when he dishes. Rip on the other hand needs a point gaurd to give me the ball and hit the open jumpers. Thats Rip and Stuckey. Not to mention, he have the Stuckey/Sheed combo in the starting lineup that works like AI/Dice would.

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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
See, I think AI is a better fit with Dice off of the bench. AI needs someone who can draw the big defenders out from the paint and then knock down the open jumpers when he dishes. Rip on the other hand needs a point gaurd to give me the ball and hit the open jumpers. Thats Rip and Stuckey. Not to mention, he have the Stuckey/Sheed combo in the starting lineup that works like AI/Dice would.

heres to hoping it happens

Yeah, I tend to agree that Stuck, Rip, Tay, AJ and Sheed should start. AI, Dice, AA, and Max off the bench could be DYNOMITE!! Even if they switched AI and Rip in the lineup...well...I'm all for it. JUST DO SOMETHING!! The season is still young enough where we can experiment with this a bit. Small ball sucks, I know that much, here and there, fine, not majority.

COME ON CURRY GROW A PAIR!! THIS IS THE KIND OF S### COACHES DO!!

We could also have the Sheed/Amir Johnson combo that supposedly was such a great thing for us. (At least that was the story at the beginning of the season.)

AI coming off the bench would work a lot better than what's going on now; it would put him on the floor with Dice, who he is supposedly developing a good chemistry with, and it gets him in a familiar spot of being by far the best scoring option on the floor.

Not to mention it gets our bigs more time, which the team desperately needs. This lopsided lineup isn't going to work in a 7-game series against Boston or Cleveland in the playoffs.

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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
See, I think AI is a better fit with Dice off of the bench. AI needs someone who can draw the big defenders out from the paint and then knock down the open jumpers when he dishes. Rip on the other hand needs a point gaurd to give me the ball and hit the open jumpers. Thats Rip and Stuckey. Not to mention, he have the Stuckey/Sheed combo in the starting lineup that works like AI/Dice would.

THANK YOU!

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Originally posted by dunkinmaxiell:
king of dark you should change your name to Rod Marinelli you guys both have the same stupidness when it comes to sports. We win 2 games in a row against 1 average team and 1 very good team without Rip but Ai still is the problem.

If you knew anything about sports you would know that this kinda ball won't win you playoff games. Heck it won't even win you regular season games against Boston or Cleveland!

It seems to me that this whole season is going to be a learning experience. This team has been judged on it's (lack of) playoff success the past three years. During that time, they've had the best record in the league, in the Eastern Conference, and division titles every year. How's that worked out for them in the end result?
The fact is, I don't care about any regular season success. Everything should be geared towards making an extra-deep run in the 2009 playoffs. So all I care about in this regular season is actually MAKING the playoffs (although a top-4 seed would be preferable), and the Pistons playing their best when it really counts.
One more opinion. This team's biggest problem in the playoffs has been those frustrating 4-8 minute spurts when they couldn't score the ball (remember the fourth quarter of game six vs. Boston last year?). That alone makes the AI trade worth it. At least this guy has the ability and the stones to create and make his own shot.
We'll just have to see. If it doesn't work, we've got flexibility heading into the off-season.
Just my 2 cents.

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G- R. Stuckey / W. Bynum
G- R. Hamilton / A. Iverson / A. Afflalo
C- A. Johnson / K. Brown
F- R. Wallace / A. McDyess / J. Maxiell
F- T. Prince / W. Herrmann

This could never work for a line up. Considering Amir at the starting center position. You must consider, who Amir would match up with.

Some Eastern Teams

Boston - Kendrick Perkins - Amir would be in foul trouble after the 1st quarter.
Toronto - Jermaine O'Neal - Same above
Chicago - Aaron Gray - Too much size for Amir to handle
Indiana - Jeff Foster - Skilled center would surely keep Amir in foul trouble
Atlanta - Al Horford - Maybe
New York - Eddy Curry - Too Strong for Arim
Washington - Brendan Haywood - Very doubtful.

Amir is still learning. And learning young and will turn out to be valuable for the Pistons as he get older. However Amir needs to beef up for more size to contend with the heavy weights I have named up above. Maybe during off season Amir should spend time to establish size to allow him to play at the center position for the Pistons. But I give props to Arim when he's on the floor for his hustling, and he efforts towards collecting rebounds.

Rasheed is more fitting to play at the center position because of his length and experience, and it allow Maxiell off the bench as second string PF, as for Mcdyess second sting Center. Also, Rasheed at Center allow the Pistons guards to drive to the baskets wend sheed is guarded by centers when he's out by the three point perimeter.

PG - R.Stucky / W. Bynum
SG - R. Hamilton / A. Iverson / A. Afflalo
C - R. Wallace/ A. McDyess / K.Brown
PF - J. Maxiell / A. Johnson
SF - T. Prince / W. Herrmann

I agree, A.I could be a spark off the bench for scoring. But the salary that he's getting, and under contract terms. Its not going to happen.

As far as Rip being traded. Heck no. But if Rip ever demands to be traded, If I was Dumar's I would send him to be reunited with Billups for J.R. Smith, to add another 3 point threat to the Pistons.

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Originally posted by dunkinmaxiell:
king of dark you should change your name to Rod Marinelli you guys both have the same stupidness when it comes to sports. We win 2 games in a row against 1 average team and 1 very good team without Rip but Ai still is the problem.

well im agree in the part where AI still is the problem

lets just put AI on reserve!

Give up people, AI has an ego and will not off the bench. Thread/

AI has averaged like over 22ppg through his entire career....I don't know if there's one person on this team that has ever even averaged more than 22ppg in a season. Maybe Rip, and maybe Sheed or Dice back when they were young but idk....I doubt it. You don't score the rock as much as AI does at his size if you can't play the game so that he sucks bullcrap is exactly that, bullcrap.

Problem is he's not being used right on this team and to me that falls on the head coach. You say well he has to come in and adjust to the team and whatever but no....Joe D said and has told AI he brought him here to be AI...the scorer. So its up to the team to adjust to him and his new style, including Michael Curry and I don't think Curry does that.

To me when I watch this team and AI is out there I don't see the offense being ran to benefit AI. I don't see Curry putting AI in a position where he can do his best so I can't fault AI for that. I guess Curry thinks giving AI the ball at the top of the key and having him go 1 on 5 is the best way to use AI....well its not.

Like you said, he looks lost out there and this is the first time in his career he's looked that way. Something tells me its not all on him, maybe he if had a good head coach like Billups has right now AI and the team would be doing better. There's been times AI has done great with this team and they've put together great games. Back in November against LA and GS and in December against San Antonio.....all in games when AI was able to be AI and sets were actually ran offensively. That's just proof when he's allowed to play his game he can play with this team and he can make his teammates better.

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Originally posted by DTP:
AI has averaged like over 22ppg through his entire career....I don't know if there's one person on this team that has ever even averaged more than 22ppg in a season. Maybe Rip, and maybe Sheed or Dice back when they were young but idk....I doubt it. You don't score the rock as much as AI does at his size if you can't play the game so that he sucks bullcrap is exactly that, bullcrap.

Problem is he's not being used right on this team and to me that falls on the head coach. You say well he has to come in and adjust to the team and whatever but no....Joe D said and has told AI he brought him here to be AI...the scorer. So its up to the team to adjust to him and his new style, including Michael Curry and I don't think Curry does that.

To me when I watch this team and AI is out there I don't see the offense being ran to benefit AI. I don't see Curry putting AI in a position where he can do his best so I can't fault AI for that. I guess Curry thinks giving AI the ball at the top of the key and having him go 1 on 5 is the best way to use AI....well its not.

Like you said, he looks lost out there and this is the first time in his career he's looked that way. Something tells me its not all on him, maybe he if had a good head coach like Billups has right now AI and the team would be doing better. There's been times AI has done great with this team and they've put together great games. Back in November against LA and GS and in December against San Antonio.....all in games when AI was able to be AI and sets were actually ran offensively. That's just proof when he's allowed to play his game he can play with this team and he can make his teammates better.

I don't mind seeing either rip or A.I off the bench i don't care, but he certainly doesn't suck , you're right.

But just don't tell me you just called George Karl a good head coach

Compared to Curry just about everyone is a good coach. I'm not sure there's one coach in this that I can't say I wouldn't rather have over Curry....and I mean actual coach, not intern but actual coach.