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We have seen it already in these 5 games. I will go down the roster and tell you guys who deserves to play, who doesn't and why I know this for a fact. And tell you what the problems of each guy is if they have one.

Stuckey- He has really great upside if he wants to put the time in. Right now he knows the best part of his game is going to the basket or taking a mid range jumper off the dribble. The problem is he is not good at. He is not good at finishing and he is not good at making plays for others. This is not about the position of PG this is simple basketball IQ. If the guy is on your hip go by him. If the guy is giving you sspace attack him and pull up for the jumper. If you get to the basket and someone is there to block you dump it off. Simple Basketball IQ that he needs to know. This is not about being a PG this is about playing the game.

Ben Gordon/Rip Hamilton/Will Bynum/Austin Daye/Jonas Jerhbko(sp)- They never look lost on the court because they have been playing at a high level of basketball for a long time. This must be the difference between a division one school and a division 2 because Stuckey is proving that all the upside (muscle and speed) that you can't beat brains!

Charlie Villenueva- This guy is awful because he has so many things he can do. It's hard to believe that but his talent is so high that he has not been put into a box yet. I'll tell you right now, this guy should not being shooting beyond 15 feet from the basket. most of his moves need to be a 1 dribble and shot type of play and he should never have his back to the basket. Charlie has the talent but he does not have the IQ to mold it into a actual game. We have a young team and he is going to have to work at that.

Wilcox- I liked the signing for the price but this guy is a strict pick n roll player. He is all offense and no defense once so ever. He needs the open floor to excel and he will excel with that.

Max and Tay need to be traded hopefully for Boozer since he isn't doing good atm.

So right now my lineup would still be the same hopefully w/o Tay and Max.


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With all the things I have disagreed with you on all these years I think you are spot on with this summary of our team and thir IQ.





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dont give up on stuckey. remember - teams gave up on chauncey too. and as for villanueva, let's not forget that michael jordan was also bald. need i say more?


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on a serious note...


i didnt think we had a need for boozer, but based on the way villanueva has been sucking, i'd take him. start boozer and bring charlie off the bench. send maxiell and wilcox to the d-league


and i dont know what the hell stuckey's problem is this year. it's like he's trying to brute force himself to the all-star game or MIP award. if he's gonna play like that, at least have the decency to stop taking so many stupid shots


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bynum has not only played just as bad as stuckey, he plays the exact same way as him too. daye and jerebko never look lost on the court? ha. tay has the highest basketball iq on team but you want to trade him? lol

your thread sucks.
 
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Not only does he want to deal Tay and MAx, he wants to deal them for a guy "...not doing so well, atm..." Yeah, deal two guys that have been studs here, for a guy, "not doing so well atm..." You're an idiot, I don't care if the Dr. does agree with you, you're still a boner!


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Stuckey and Bynum are currently playing with ***...
 
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Originally posted by TheFeldie:
Not only does he want to deal Tay and MAx, he wants to deal them for a guy "...not doing so well, atm..." Yeah, deal two guys that have been studs here, for a guy, "not doing so well atm..." You're an idiot, I don't care if the Dr. does agree with you, you're still a boner!


LMAO at max and tay being studs. since when?
 
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Originally posted by edwaudo:
We have seen it already in these 5 games. I will go down the roster and tell you guys who deserves to play, who doesn't and why I know this for a fact. And tell you what the problems of each guy is if they have one.

Stuckey- He has really great upside if he wants to put the time in. Right now he knows the best part of his game is going to the basket or taking a mid range jumper off the dribble. The problem is he is not good at. He is not good at finishing and he is not good at making plays for others. This is not about the position of PG this is simple basketball IQ. If the guy is on your hip go by him. If the guy is giving you sspace attack him and pull up for the jumper. If you get to the basket and someone is there to block you dump it off. Simple Basketball IQ that he needs to know. This is not about being a PG this is about playing the game.

Ben Gordon/Rip Hamilton/Will Bynum/Austin Daye/Jonas Jerhbko(sp)- They never look lost on the court because they have been playing at a high level of basketball for a long time. This must be the difference between a division one school and a division 2 because Stuckey is proving that all the upside (muscle and speed) that you can't beat brains!

Charlie Villenueva- This guy is awful because he has so many things he can do. It's hard to believe that but his talent is so high that he has not been put into a box yet. I'll tell you right now, this guy should not being shooting beyond 15 feet from the basket. most of his moves need to be a 1 dribble and shot type of play and he should never have his back to the basket. Charlie has the talent but he does not have the IQ to mold it into a actual game. We have a young team and he is going to have to work at that.

Wilcox- I liked the signing for the price but this guy is a strict pick n roll player. He is all offense and no defense once so ever. He needs the open floor to excel and he will excel with that.

Max and Tay need to be traded hopefully for Boozer since he isn't doing good atm.

So right now my lineup would still be the same hopefully w/o Tay and Max.


ok stuck- can look lost at times, yet for the most part he is in control, an that's what you want your pg doin. he has to accomadate for loss of scorers yet he does need to learn how to step up, not to mention, hate to do this but i mean come on! can a ref please explain to me how when stuckey drives, an a lil fly of a guard thinks he can bump the man marvel known as hot rod. won't go flying off him. I say get off the track when the trains coming, thats a blocking foul every freakin time!!! not offensive bs they call at least twice a game. or at least not call that garbage an let the guard learn the hard way by getting tossed by trying to be physical, with a far more physical guard... an whats funny, is stuckey is goin soft in the lane, an they still bounce off him like bowling pins, if it was lebron they call it right, stuckey is in the same category when it comes to being a man amongst boys... an yes i did say that, an yes i mean that, an im a huge lebron fan so i should know

i blew so much steam on that one im gonna have to cut short the rest
 
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Originally posted by TheFeldie:
Not only does he want to deal Tay and MAx, he wants to deal them for a guy "...not doing so well, atm..." Yeah, deal two guys that have been studs here, for a guy, "not doing so well atm..." You're an idiot, I don't care if the Dr. does agree with you, you're still a boner!


I don't know man. I think I would take that trade right now if it was offered. Boozer did come out of his slump last night by the way and led the Jazz to a big win over the Spurs.

But, he gives us two things that we need. A scorer from the inside and cap space for next season if he doesn't work out. I know it sounds like last year with AI but we aren't winning anything anyway and we get rid of Tay's contract that way. I don't think it would hurt but I really doubt it would happen.

Not to mention, Max has hardly been a stud for us. Average at best.





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Maxiell has to be the most untradeable person on this team right now.


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Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
Maxiell has to be the most untradeable person on this team right now.


Why do you say that? He hasn't been very impressive so far. Only Wilcox has play worse and if you make that trade you have Boozer who is obviously better than any big we have now.

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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
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Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
Maxiell has to be the most untradeable person on this team right now.


Why do you say that? He has been very impressive so far. Only Wilcox has play worse and if you make that trade you have Boozer who is obviously better than any big we have now.


^^LOL


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"When you are running an organization, you have to have the vision and the foresight to be able to change and put the team through transition," Dumars said. "But you also have to be patient enough to sit back and allow it to play out.
 
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Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
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Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
Maxiell has to be the most untradeable person on this team right now.


Why do you say that? He has been very impressive so far. Only Wilcox has play worse and if you make that trade you have Boozer who is obviously better than any big we have now.


^^LOL


How has max been impressive?





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Feldie don't be a tool, just because they play for the pistons doesn't mean they are studs. This town is done with tayshaun and we want him gone fpr a reason. If we could get a solid low post threat, a solid rebounder than you have to make that trade. Not to mention Max is on a horrible contract and I know how Joe D loves to try and get rid of those. To bad the economy is doing so bad atm or he would have by now.


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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
quote:
Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
quote:
Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
Maxiell has to be the most untradeable person on this team right now.


Why do you say that? He has been very impressive so far. Only Wilcox has play worse and if you make that trade you have Boozer who is obviously better than any big we have now.


^^LOL


How has max been impressive?


I didn't say he was impressive. I think Max is terrible.


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"When you are running an organization, you have to have the vision and the foresight to be able to change and put the team through transition," Dumars said. "But you also have to be patient enough to sit back and allow it to play out.
 
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Better than Wilcox.
 
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Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
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Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
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Originally posted by Dr. Evil:
quote:
Originally posted by Liquid Slap:
Maxiell has to be the most untradeable person on this team right now.


Why do you say that? He has not been very impressive so far. Only Wilcox has play worse and if you make that trade you have Boozer who is obviously better than any big we have now.


^^LOL


How has max been impressive?


I didn't say he was impressive. I think Max is terrible.


Ok. I wast just wondering why you laughed at what I wrote then? Because I think he's terrible too.





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Maxiell is the most untradeable player on the team. His contract isn't horrible, but it's bad for what he produces. Plus, it's the four years that's left on it that makes it difficult to move unless it's a throw-in for a trade to help match salaries. Considering the economic climate of the NBA and the fact many teams are maneuvering their payroll to accommodate the 2010 free agent class, Maxiell's contract in and of itself is near impossible to move. Come the summer of 2012 and after, it might be a very easy contract to move.

Maxiell has been inconsistent at best in the early season, but certainly better than Wilcox at this point. But that might be more by default because Wilcox has been that bad.
 
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Originally posted by Joe Jam:
Maxiell is the most untradeable player on the team. His contract isn't horrible, but it's bad for what he produces. Plus, it's the four years that's left on it that makes it difficult to move unless it's a throw-in for a trade to help match salaries. Considering the economic climate of the NBA and the fact many teams are maneuvering their payroll to accommodate the 2010 free agent class, Maxiell's contract in and of itself is near impossible to move. Come the summer of 2012 and after, it might be a very easy contract to move.

Maxiell has been inconsistent at best in the early season, but certainly better than Wilcox at this point. But that might be more by default because Wilcox has been that bad.


^that was my point^


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Lol, I know, Slap.

I was trying to explain that to the good Doctor.
 
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