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Superstar |
we've definitely got our work cut out for us this year
 but on the bright side, it looks like we have plenty of weapons. not a fan of some of the dumb fouls and turnovers, but i like our versatility. and the defense was better than expected and it looks like stuckey's gearing up for yet another year of being shown up by bynum, btw. i wish we'd just let this guy play SG for god's sake _________  |
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Veteran |
i agree at pg bynum makes stuckey looks silly at pg
   gtsw - 2/13/08 ..4/27/08 ... 12/27/08 |
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Superstar |
i hope the doorknob doesnt hit maceo baston on the way out. this guy was absolutely awful
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Veteran |
Yeah I know hope he is not trying to make the team with the missed FT's. He did alter the last shot that could have tied it yet it would never have been close if he could have made a FT.  TV reporter: Is this a common training method? I mean, do other fighters pound raw meat? Rocky: No, I think I invented it. |
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Veteran |
Slow down, it was only the first game, wait till the regular season. |
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Sophomore |
Although RIP is turnover prone, at least he tries to make assists. Stucky, Bynum and Gordon are all shoot first guys.
Why can't our point guards get any assists. Lets not forget that we could trade Stucky if ther right deal came along. He is not too good to be traded as the orginization would have us believe |
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Superstar |
as of right now, i'd gladly trade him for sessions and a draft pick
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Star |
I argee chemistry is gonna be an issue. But that's normal for a team like ours that has a bunch of new guys that have to figure out their role. Turnovers, defense, those will come when the chemistry comes... but how long will it take to solidify... aw now that's the rut
 A little bit crazy, but I get the job done. |
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Sophomore |
I am with BP trade Stuckey now while his sock is still up. I am conviced that he's not going to work at the point. The longer he's here the more teams are going to start realizing that he's a bust.
Yeah I said it. CV home of Richard Hamilton |
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 Star |
I have no idea what game y'all been watching, the chemistry was superb, there was so many turnovers, cause i think it was jitters, they'll be fine by the time the season starts. An Bynum blazed cause he finally learned to pass. Which was a great thing to see
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Sophomore |
How can you say that Bynum has learned to pass based on this game?
As far as I can tell, Stucky, Bynum, and Gordon lack the desire to be pass first players. RIP shows the best effort even though he is a turnover prone passer. If any one of those guys dished better, RIP could be more effectivly used. I hope Stucky, Bynum or Gordon can become this player, but I haven't seen it consitanly from them. If Srucky becomes a passer, his field goal percentage will go up too. |
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 The Evil Genius Superstar |
First preseason game and we are already talking trades?
 I loved seeing how deap we are going to be this year. Everyone coming off the bench has shown they can play in this league (except the rookies). The depth across the frontline looked better than I thought they were. Max looked better because he finally doesn't have to play with Sheed which exposed his lack of defensive rebounding ability. Now, he is playing with a true bigs who stay down in the paint looking to grab rebounds. I really thought the bigs were great tonight and the proof was the points in the paint. Something that has been lacking for years. Well, there is no doubt that our gaurds can score and there is no doubt that none of them are willing passers. I think Stuckey will continue to grow into that role but I am sure he is being pushed to be agressive and drive to the hole from his coaches. If this team continues to play like this we would benifit from a PG who sets up the other players first and Stuckey must grow into that role. Something that took Chauncey years to figure out. Do the fans have the patience for him to develop though? Bynum is dynamic! But lets not forget when he is out there many of the other players are just standing around watching him score. I would say that he was doing it against 2nd level players but we have all seen him score like this against 1st level players as well. Personally, I think he should always come off the bench. He is the kind of "change of pace" player we need coming off the bench. He's instant offense and a momentum changer. Chemistry is still laking. Way to many turnovers based on bad passes just not knowing each other. It will take time and we may see a slow start to this season. Hopefully, we will be one of those teams that catch fire in the 2nd half and one the people are scared of playing.  "Excellent" mwhaa ha ha ha ha! 2009/10 Season GTS Winner- 11/19/09 2007 & 2008 Pistons.com Fantasy Football Champion |
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Star |
The PG's job is to get his team the best shot possible in any given possession. If the PG is a more efficient scorer than any of his teammates (as Bynum, Gordon, and Stuck will be), he SHOULD be calling his own number a lot. I mean, who should our guys have made an extra effort to pass it to? Ben? Kwame? Daye? Prince? C'mon, be serious.
Our guards played well, although I'm still bothered by Bynum's tendency to always over-dribble. It's absurd. This message has been edited. Last edited by: tetris, |
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Star |
I can say bynum learned to pass, cause he did. I can't believe i have to explain this one haha. Ok last year he never every kicked the ball out or dumped it, last game he DID! a nice dump to wilcox, an i remember a nice kick out to gordon, gordon was very pass first! you must not have seen him play much. Stuckey was pass first, i liked his 3 ball shots, they didn't drop, yet they were noticably better then any 3 ball shot ive seen him take in his career, i scratch the last game for stuckey as just a bad game, an he did have a very good, an great defender guarding him, chalmers, an im pretty sure wade was on him too. The biggest indicator to bynum's improved passing was his FG% it's so obvious i don't even know why i have to explain it really. Instead of forcing shots he would have in the past, this time around he kicked em out, exactly what i've been preaching to bynum since he got here. |
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The Evil Genius Superstar |
I agree. But some of the shots being thrown up where no the best shots possible and better shots could be had with ball movement. "Excellent" mwhaa ha ha ha ha! 2009/10 Season GTS Winner- 11/19/09 2007 & 2008 Pistons.com Fantasy Football Champion |
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Star |
The turnovers, were imo cause we pushed when it wasn't there, miami came to play an brought their A-game, that's why im very satisfied with this win, it was very ALMIGHTY DETROIT PISTONS! like. We got a good lead, when ever we went a lil cold our D kept us with a cushion. Back to the turnovers, Stuck rushed a lot of passes to rip, that were picked off, he needs to not just read rip, he needs to read the D around rip more so, cause if u see a guy trying to cut off the pass, fake pass, as an indicator for rip to do a lil shimmy an cut in another direction, while the guy tryin to intercept it, is completely out of the picture, for trying to gamble. That's what gave rip a lot more higher percentage shots, also due to this, if they try an gamble everyone has to help the gambler an collapse on rip, which leaves rip with the dump. |
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Rookie |
Watching the game last night, I know why some people say Bynum played better at PG than Stuck. They were running some weird play where Stuck kicked the ball out to Rip and let him distribute. I am not sure if that was by design or just because Stuck couldn't find an open man in scoring position. Also, the way Stuck just kind of stands there after he passes the ball off to someone is IMO not the most productive use of his time.
The fact of the matter is that what Stuck was doing on the court was (in this game) far more effective that what Bynum was doing. The +/- stat tell it all. Stuck +13 and Bynum -13. Now granted, Bynum was on the floor with 2nd unit people more but Bynum had the worst +/- of the entire team. I've seen great performances from Bynum before but last night was simply not one of them. |
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Sophomore |
Really? That is ridiculous. |
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Star |
at the 15th pick, he's already proved to be far from a bust. |
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Star |
Another thing to add, to a common fan you won't realize this or know this, but eric spoelstra is a great coach, an has his guys prepared, an i love his defensive schemes, that contributed to a lot of our turn overs, an he schemed the rip curl very good, which is why i was very pleased to see us still scoring. Miami will be very strong this year, miami an detroit can very well be forces in the east, especially considering, theres 2 old farts in the top 3. cleveland an boston, cleveland is young on the perimeter but there frontcourt where ya need youth is old as hell, just look to the pistons frontcourt last season for evidence, that was a huge reason our D sucked that a lot of people don't realize, an boston is just old overall
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