We should trade Prince 4, E. Okafor. Prince makes $9,500,000 3yrs. age29 E. Okafor makes $9,537,500 6yrs. age26 1 Stuckey/Bynum 2 Rip/B.G./A.A. 3 Summer/Rip/C.V. 4 C.V./resign Dice/Max 5 E.O./Dice/K.B.

we dont need a 5 we need a 4 which we got charlie, now we need good back ups or grab another star through trade

CVill is a 4. So is Maxiell. So is McDyess.

Pistons need another 5.

And they're gonna really need to get help at the 3 spot from their recent draft picks.

dice may not be back, an dice is a hybrid 4-5 cause he can easily defend both positions

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Originally posted by Voice of Reason:
dice may not be back, an dice is a hybrid 4-5 cause he can easily defend both positions

I disagree! We do need a 5. McDyess is getting up there in age and no he's not a hybrid PF/C. he's 6'9 245...so is LeBron. Thats not a hybrid center thats a PF playing center because of necessity! You aren't going to like this but I'll repeat what I said in another thread. Trade Ben Gordon to Golden State for Biedrins. Frontcourt is locked DOWN!!! Deron Washington has been signed to a contract and if we get 8-10 pts off the bench and better defense than Gordon would provide we'd be awesome.

Last year, Wallace played mostly at center. He's not a center either, but he's capable of defending the low post. McDyess also played center, and can defend high or low.

Wasn't David Lee a center last year? He isn't any bigger than McDyess. Anyone remember Don Reid?

McDyess can't stop Shaq or Howard, but he'd do fine against most centers, especially backups.

Detroit needs three who are capable of playing center, and Dyess could be one of them.

Prince for Camby works. Its unrealistic for us to get Chandler, but Camby could be available. Its unlikely in a way though.

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Originally posted by dbuch238:


Detroit needs three who are capable of playing center, and Dyess could be one of them.

I'm not sure I agree with your view that we need to be three deep at every position. No team in the NBA is three deep at every position. There are very few teams that are two deep at each position. Most rotations are 8-9 max, with other players just on for development or to round out the required 14-15 man team.

Also, there are hardly any true centers in the NBA these days, McDyess would be a fine backup. Okufur would be a great, young, defensive-minded center to build around as well, but Charlotte doesn't need a SF.

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I'm not sure I agree with your view that we need to be three deep at every position. No team in the NBA is three deep at every position. There are very few teams that are two deep at each position. Most rotations are 8-9 max, with other players just on for development or to round out the required 14-15 man team.

I didn't say they needed three centers, but should have three capable of playing the position. Many players are capable of playing two positions. Each teams depth chart should be three deep.

If you only have two centers, and one is injured, what do you do for backup. Teams not three deep sign NBADL players, like Samb, to 10 day contracts.

In the East you need 3 centers. We have to deal with D Howard & Shaq. IMO it is an important position to size and depth at.

The only likely scenario i foresee would be this..With Utah roughly 3 mil into the lux tax right now, they desperately want to resign Milsap. For argument sake lets say OKC offers him 5 yr 50 mil. Utah matches it. Utah would then be roughly 13 mil into the tax. We could trade prince for boozer straight up,however this is where a GM's sales skills in negotiating come in. Joe must sell Utah on how Max was misused last year or something to that effect, and tell Utah that we'll offer you relief but we want Boozer and CJ Miles for Max & Prince. If they don't take, offer up Prince and sharpe (which utah would release/buyout) for boozer. jmho

Utah could then see if they're are any takers for AK-47, like OKC per se

Probably a sign and trade scenario which may land Bosh or Boozer getting rid of Tay or Rip. I don't want to lose Rip but it may happen.

We don't need Bosh or Boozer. They're both PF's. we have a starting PF named Charlie Villanueva. We need a backup PF, and a couple of players to play center. I don't want to give up RIP or Prince for those pieces. I'd prefer to have Kwame start.

Plaisted will be the 5th big man, who is capable of playing both 4 n 5

I hope we can trade Prince n Afflalo for a really good center, so we'll have something like this:

C) ?, Kwame, Plaisted
PF) Villanueva, Max, the 6'10" Swedish

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Originally posted by dbuch238:
We don't need Bosh or Boozer. They're both PF's. we have a starting PF named Charlie Villanueva. We need a backup PF, and a couple of players to play center. I don't want to give up RIP or Prince for those pieces. I'd prefer to have Kwame start.

Bosh, Boozer, & CV could also play center too. If we got Bosh or Boozer, CV could be the back up PF/C.

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Bosh, Boozer, & CV could also play center too. If we got Bosh or Boozer, CV could be the back up PF/C.

I've never seen Villanueva listed as a PF/C. He's more of a high post defender and shooter. Before I would put Villanueva there, I'd move Maxiell to C. He's short, but he can play in the low post.

Neither Bosh or Boozer is a center. But, could they play there? Sure. Boozer has the bulk, but not the height. Bosh is a better defender, and is athletic.

Villanueva is the PF, and it's highly unlikely we'll rent Boozer or Bosh for a year. Not if it's going to cost Prince or Hamilton.

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Originally posted by dbuch238:
[QUOTE] Before I would put Villanueva there, I'd move Maxiell to C. He's short, but he can play in the low post.

Are you nuts? lol Thats like putting Charles Barkley at Center 15 years ago. (Size wise not talent wise)

Maxiell at Center? Let me count the legit centers that would totally paste him in the post. I'll just stay in the east for kicks.

1. Shaq
2. Garnett
3. Ilgauskas
4. Lopez
5. D. Howard
6. I even think Darko could abuse Maxiell in the post.

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Originally posted by WiLLieHarDBallz:

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Originally posted by dbuch238:
[QUOTE] Before I would put Villanueva there, I'd move Maxiell to C. He's short, but he can play in the low post.

Are you nuts? lol Thats like putting Charles Barkley at Center 15 years ago. (Size wise not talent wise)

Maxiell at Center? Let me count the legit centers that would totally paste him in the post. I'll just stay in the east for kicks.

1. Shaq
2. Garnett
3. Ilgauskas
4. Lopez
5. D. Howard
6. I even think Darko could abuse Maxiell in the post.

True!

IS Illgauskas opting out?

If we trade Prince for Bargnani or Brendan Haywood, is that gonna work? Do the Raptors and Wizard need a SF?

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We all know we need a better starting Center then Kwame (still a good back up center). I would like to be able to trade Prince to make that happen and keep Rip.